{"id":27443,"date":"2025-09-15T09:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-09-15T16:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/?p=27443"},"modified":"2025-09-16T15:42:43","modified_gmt":"2025-09-16T22:42:43","slug":"copycat-killers-the-legacy-of-seven","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/copycat-killers-the-legacy-of-seven\/","title":{"rendered":"Copycat Killers: The Legacy of <i>Seven<\/i>"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m setting the example. And what I\u2019ve done is gonna be puzzled over and studied and followed\u2026 forever.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So proclaims John Doe, the religious zealot turned serial killer played so memorably by real-life villain Kevin Spacey, towards the shocking climax of David Fincher\u2019s <em>Seven<\/em>. In the 30 years since that movie debuted, those words have taken on a meta-quality. <em>Seven <\/em>now stands as the most influential American serial killer film ever made, with no shortage of copycats following in its bloody footprints.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If any other film can claim that title, it&#8217;s Jonathan Demme\u2019s blockbuster Oscar darling <em>Silence of the Lambs<\/em>, which came out four years earlier. Its influence on <em>Seven<\/em>\u2013particularly in regards to its brainy, verbose villain\u2013are readily apparent in Andrew Kevin Walker\u2019s script (which he started writing in \u201891) and its success no doubt helped get the latter greenlit. <em>Seven <\/em>was not the only A-list serial killer drama to try and replicate <em>Silence\u2019s <\/em>success; less than a month after its September 22nd release, the similarly-toned <em>Copycat <\/em>hit theaters, albeit to nowhere near the same level of controversy, acclaim, or box office. (Don\u2019t feel too bad for the enjoyably pulpy <em>Copycat <\/em>though; it managed to turn a profit and has of late enjoyed a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.yahoo.com\/entertainment\/articles\/one-netflix-most-watched-movies-151840528.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFSzsUeevKdfWWj9hM3eJ0vNr07JfL1pOPtdRNoe38WWkr2Q1cCzyQQJ-svJ-kTZhc-DrW31HAK8FTegX_Ah_PpHp_EwM9PiLOoGnGTVVjln25itwWkeKVMBZqOYZiNO-E57zxdMqP3uyAPpwO14QnykJBZMHlVppfttQZW1k9VD\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">surprising resurgence of popularity<\/a> on Netflix.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There\u2019s no great mystery as to why <em>Seven <\/em>was so successful: besides the topshelf work that Fincher and his cast and crew bring to the table, Walker\u2019s literary and legitimately intelligent script puts an ingenious spin on the tired procedural\/slasher framework by basing the killings around the Biblical seven deadly sins, as well as giving us a whopper of a twist ending. And while the look of the film was a bit too grungy, and its violence too gruesome, for the same Oscar voters who showered <em>Lambs <\/em>with gold, both of those aspects lit a fire under any number of peers and would-be filmmakers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The years immediately following <em>Seven\u2019s <\/em>debut saw the releases of <em>Kiss the Girls<\/em> (1997; starring Morgan Freeman in a role so similar to his detective in <em>Seven <\/em>that many people thought it was a sequel), <em>Fallen <\/em>(1998), <em>8MM <\/em>(1999, Walker\u2019s appropriately-titled follow up script), <em>The Bone Collector<\/em> (1999; prominently featuring <em>Seven <\/em>scene-stealer Leland Orser), <em>Resurrection <\/em>(1999, Orser again), <em>In Dreams <\/em>(1999), <em>The Cell <\/em>(2000), <em>The Crimson Rivers<\/em> (2000), <em>The Watcher <\/em>(2000), and <em>Jill Rips<\/em> (2000).&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All feature some combination of Fincher\u2019s signature silver\/blue sheen, a highly literate and\/or Biblically-obsessed visionary\/mission-oriented murderer and puzzle-based crimes, heavy doses of S&amp;M imagery, and highly-stylized title sequences. Unlike other genre fads of the \u201890s, such as Tarantino-wannabe crime flicks, modernized teenage literary adaptations, or gross-out comedies, <em>Seven <\/em>rip-offs continued well into the next three decades. See the likes of: <em>Detox <\/em>(2002), <em>Mindhunters <\/em>(2004), <em>Taking Lives<\/em> (2004), <em>Thr3e <\/em>(2006; c\u2019mon), <em>Suspect Zero<\/em> (2006, more numbers), <em>Horsemen <\/em>(2009), <em>Solace <\/em>(2015; at one point retooled to be an official <em>Seven<\/em> sequel before that idea was wisely nixed), <em>The Batman <\/em>(2022), and <em>Longlegs <\/em>(2024).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>With a precious few clever or artful exceptions\u2014<em>Fallen<\/em>, <em>The Cell\u2014<\/em>these titles are at best competent, enjoyable potboilers (<em>Kiss the Girls, The Bone Collector<\/em>) and at worst turgid tripe (<em>Horseman<\/em>), although a couple do rise to the level of so-bad-they\u2019re-good. (<em>Resurrection <\/em>not only features the most ludicrous traumatic backstory a haunted cop has ever been given, it also shows said cop attempt to decipher the killer\u2019s enigmatic math clues by scrawling down \u201c1 + 1 = 2\u201d; while <em>Mindhunters <\/em>gave us the immortal line: \u201cNow we know his weakness: bullets.\u201d)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"577\" src=\"https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/saw1-1024x577.webp\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-27445\" srcset=\"https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/saw1-1024x577.webp 1024w, https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/saw1-768x433.webp 768w, https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/saw1-1200x675.webp 1200w, https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/saw1.webp 1296w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>But one title stands out above all: <em>Saw<\/em>. Released in 2004, that low-budget horror thriller\u2014which shares a similar look, twist, and modus operandi to <em>Seven<\/em>\u2014would go on to spawn one of the biggest and most popular franchises in modern times, as well as kick off the \u2018torture porn\u2019 trend that defined horror for the second half of the Aughts. While that disreputable and controversial subgenre has its roots in the mondo movies of the \u201870s and splatter films of the \u201880s, it\u2019s very clear that it was also riffing on the torture content in <em>Seven<\/em>, even as these later examples choose to focus on the actual gruesome acts, whereas Fincher only ever gave us brief glimpses of their aftermath. Given how indebted <em>Saw <\/em>is to <em>Seven<\/em>, I think its more than fair to say that the former is the true progenitor of torture porn, loathe as those of us who love it but can&#8217;t stand that category are to admit it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But it was not just midbudget journeymen and genre gorehounds who shamelessly plucked from <em>Seven <\/em>over the years. Some of the biggest and most expensive blockbusters of that time have straight up cribbed its third-act. The idea of having your main villain intentionally get themselves caught as a checkmate move in their grand scheme\u2014inevitably and invariably leading to a philosophical face-to-face with the hero\u2014was startlingly original in Walker\u2019s script, but has since grown into a tired trope, appearing in the likes of <em>The Dark Knight<\/em> (2008), <em>Skyfall <\/em>(2012), <em>Star Trek Into Darkness<\/em> (2013), <em>Captain America: Civil War<\/em> (2016), and the aforementioned <em>The Batman<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s only right that, for as popular as many of the numerous films listed above were, it was <em>Seven\u2019s <\/em>own director who made the best follow up to it. When it was initially announced that Fincher would be directing a movie based on the real-life case of the Zodiac Killer (who, like John Doe, taunted the media and police with cryptic messages), there was a sense that he was retreading well-worn ground. But <em>Zodiac <\/em>(2007) would go on to be his masterpiece, expanding upon many of the themes and ideas he first explored in <em>Seven, <\/em>while adding new layers of depth and a sense of historical gravitas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the end, <em>Seven\u2019s <\/em>greatest copycat was Fincher himself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>David Fincher\u2019s brilliant serial-killer drama Seven debuted 30 years ago. Since then, it has inspired dozens of rip-offs, popular movie tropes, and entire genres.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":506,"featured_media":27444,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1428,1399],"tags":[1429,1422],"class_list":["post-27443","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-happy-birthday","category-looking-back","tag-happy-birthday","tag-looking-back"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27443","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/506"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=27443"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27443\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":27469,"href":"https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27443\/revisions\/27469"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/27444"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=27443"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=27443"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/crookedmarquee.com\/stage8\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=27443"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}